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〜たところで

N2
ta tokoro de

even if (it would be no use); no matter how much

Formation

Verb-ta + ところで

Chinese meanings

即使……也无济于事

Chinese formation

动词た形+ところで

Chinese usage

表示即使做了某事,也无法改变结果。

Chinese notes

常与いくら、今さら等搭配。

Examples

  • 今いまから急いそいだところで、終しゅう電でんには間まに合あわないだろう。
    Even if we hurry now, we probably won't make the last train.
    现在再赶,恐怕也赶不上末班车。
  • いくら説せつ明めいしたところで、あの人ひとは聞きく耳みみを持もたない。
    No matter how much you explain, he just won't listen.
    不管解释多少,那个人都听不进去。
  • 失しっ敗ぱいしたところで、失うしなうものは何なにもない。
    Even if we fail, we have nothing to lose.
    即使失败,也没有什么可失去的。

Notes

The main clause says the effort is useless or the result wouldn't matter much. Often with いくら, どんなに, 今さら. Different from 〜たところ (when I did, I found).

#concession#condition

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import { getGrammarById } from 'kotowa';
getGrammarById('ta-tokoro-de');
{
  "id": "ta-tokoro-de",
  "pattern": "〜たところで",
  "romaji": "ta tokoro de",
  "level": "N2",
  "meaning": "even if (it would be no use); no matter how much",
  "formation": "Verb-ta + ところで",
  "examples": [
    {
      "ja": "今から急いだところで、終電には間に合わないだろう。",
      "furigana": "{今|いま}から{急|いそ}いだところで、{終電|しゅうでん}には{間|ま}に{合|あ}わないだろう。",
      "en": "Even if we hurry now, we probably won't make the last train."
    },
    {
      "ja": "いくら説明したところで、あの人は聞く耳を持たない。",
      "furigana": "いくら{説明|せつめい}したところで、あの{人|ひと}は{聞|き}く{耳|みみ}を{持|も}たない。",
      "en": "No matter how much you explain, he just won't listen."
    },
    {
      "ja": "失敗したところで、失うものは何もない。",
      "furigana": "{失敗|しっぱい}したところで、{失|うしな}うものは{何|なに}もない。",
      "en": "Even if we fail, we have nothing to lose."
    }
  ],
  "tags": [
    "concession",
    "condition"
  ],
  "notes": "The main clause says the effort is useless or the result wouldn't matter much. Often with いくら, どんなに, 今さら. Different from 〜たところ (when I did, I found).",
  "zh": {
    "status": "reviewed",
    "source_hash": "5bede37a3f69c3b22e6fb512926df51377dabbad3add912e47901489b6ffd7ba",
    "meanings": [
      "即使……也无济于事"
    ],
    "formation": "动词た形+ところで",
    "explanation": "表示即使做了某事,也无法改变结果。",
    "notes": "常与いくら、今さら等搭配。",
    "examples": [
      {
        "ja": "今から急いだところで、終電には間に合わないだろう。",
        "zh": "现在再赶,恐怕也赶不上末班车。"
      },
      {
        "ja": "いくら説明したところで、あの人は聞く耳を持たない。",
        "zh": "不管解释多少,那个人都听不进去。"
      },
      {
        "ja": "失敗したところで、失うものは何もない。",
        "zh": "即使失败,也没有什么可失去的。"
      }
    ],
    "references": [
      "sources/grammar/n2.json#ta-tokoro-de",
      "Original Chinese authored and reviewed by Codex; no independent human review"
    ],
    "reviewer": "Codex",
    "review_method": "ai",
    "reviewed_at": "2026-10-28",
    "review_hash": "85745bd6b8898e856b34ae88355eba3c8adfb53ee3cf43741f2834fa2a094d7a"
  }
}